1 John 1:8, Sinning people have Sin.


"Mark 16:15 preach the gospel to every creature. Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe (do) all things whatsoever I (Jesus Christ) have commanded: Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega,... 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, ... have right to the tree of life, and... enter ... the city."


I am a retired pastor of the Church of God (Tennessee).
My name is Isaac Livingston. I am from Neyyoor India.

1 John 1:8, If we say we are saved and sinning, it is lie.

1 John 1:8 says: "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." Preachers quote this verse and say that every human being in the whole word will be committing sin until they die. If a living man claims that he, by the grace of God and by the power of God, does not sin anymore, preachers will call this man a liar, quoting this verse. Preachers of Satan humiliate and exploit true Christians using this verse and such verses. The false preachers seem to have the upper hand always. They claim that even apostle John was admitting to have been committing sin by this verse. However, the previous verse and the next verse explain the context. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Verse 7 says that those who walk in the light, are sinless and God abides in them. Verse 9 says that Jesus Christ cleans all the root cause of sins, which are the addiction of sins, from all those who confess their sins and makes them perfect. They will not do future sins and God forgives all the past sins. And verse 8 in context says, that if we do not walk in the light as in verse 7, if do not confess our sins as in verse 9, and say the we are saved, (as the church Christians say), it is deception and it is not true. So, this verse condemns church Christians, who live in sin, and say that they are saved. Their salvation is fake. Instead of telling the truth, the false preachers, who are cursed disciples of the devil, preach that no one can live holy life without committing sin.

Let us look at the verse from the beginning. Verse 3 says "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ." So, the disciples have fellowship with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ, and they desire that the believers may also have the same fellowship as they have with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ,  "Verse 5 ... God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" A few very important truth from the above verses for us to know. (1). The disciples have fellowship with God, who is light that have no darkness (shadow that is sin). Those who has fellowship with God, or who walk with God, have no darkness (sin) in them. (John 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. Ephesians 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord.). Here, the disciples have fellowship with God, they walk in the light, and so they have no darkness (sin) at all. But the children of Satan, who are false teachers, try to teach that the disciples were also sinners, by quoting verse 8. They are of the devil and they deceive Christians. (2). Christians say that they are with Jesus Christ but they live in sin, This is accepted in Christianity as truth. But it is a blatant lie. Believers of apostle's time also had this problem and so apostle John confronted them in this matter. God repeatedly says that light (God, holiness) has no fellowship with darkness (Satan, sin). Either they live with Jesus Christ or they live in sin, but not in both. (3). The very purpose of this epistle to the believers is to invite the believers to the light, which is fellowship with God. It is proof that sinning people can become holy believers and have fellowship with God, if they so desire and do what God tells them to do.

'We are saved' means that we are saved from sins and so, 'we should have no sin'. Most Christians claim that they are saved, but they live in sin. They may tell this lie ignorantly. They are taught that even though they live in sin, their sin will not be counted because Jesus died for their sins on the cross. Based on this deceptive philosophy, they say that they are saved even though they live in sin. The truth is not in these Christians. 1 John 1:8 says "If we say, We have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." We just saw that this is to sinning Christians, who do not confess their sins and do not walk in the light, as verses 7&9 say. False preachers try to void these verses with verse 8. They are of Satan and that is why they teach lies. But, there are sinning people as well as holy people in the world. Just because the sinners do not know them or have fellowship with holy people, and say that there are no holy people in the world, it is like a blind man saying that there are no sun and moon. They are just blind to the Spirit of God. Further, most Christians love sin more than they love God and false preaching gives them an excuse to commit their pet sins. So, they are very happy to hear their deception message with excitement. So, they commit sin without guilt. It will be appropriate if our churches read the message in verse 8 this way. "If we say that we are saved, while we live in sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." It is a warning to Christians of today. If you like to know more, listen to the video on this link: "Live with no sin, is it lie?."

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